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The Perimenopausal Wife and How to Live With Her

by Magnolia

Well, goodness knows that I’ve said much on this subject already.  It has been those posts that continue to draw more readers to my blog – particularly men who are, well, looking for answers on how to live with their perimenopausal wife.

While I’ve been away from regular blogging and frankly, dealing with my own perimenopause (good grief the night sweats are horrendous these days) and fighting off  hormonally induced depression, I’ve given a bit of thought to this post.  The only answer I can come up with is:

“How many times can I say the same thing?”

Because, you see, gentleman, I’ve talked about it already.  A lot.  So, rather than rag on and on about something I’ve pretty much discussed to death, I thought I would simply link you to previous posts that I’ve done and you can peruse them at your leisure.

There are plenty of other things I wish to blog about these days, not the least of which are the many other symptoms that women have to deal with in perimenopause such as:

  • vertigo
  • heart palpitations (I swore I was having a bono-fide heart attack)
  • depression (the worst if you ask me)
  • anxiety
  • fatigue and exhaustion and of course, let’s not forget
  • loss of libido

So, help yourself to these posts and as always please feel free to leave comments.  You can also contact me  privately, via email, if you have any questions that you would rather not discuss in the wild, wild west of the blogosphere!

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I also wanted to mention that I just received a new book that I’ve been asked to review (good thing I like to read ) and will be getting around to it sooner rather than later.  It is entitled, Stay Young & Sexy with Bio-Identical Hormone Replacement, by Dr. Jonathan V. Wright, MD and Lane Lenard, PhD.  The book has a forward by Suzanne Somers and will be released in February 2010; however, you can pre-order at their website here if you don’t want to wait and feel so inclined.

Till then!

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{ 7 comments… read them below or add one }

Lance Chambers February 13, 2010 at 8:04 am

It is also important for husbands to understand the biological and physiological changes their wife is experiencing so that
they will be able to make the necessary adjustments and compromise should their wife become unreasonable and horredous at times.

Cheryl G April 25, 2010 at 10:14 am

I am perimenopausal. I told my husband yesterday to leave. He knows the changes I am going through and well lets just say it said it didn’t want to leave but when all said and done he did pack up and go. He said if I really wanted this. Can I be blunt? I don’t know what I want right now. My emotions are all over the place. My husband had a emotional affair back in October. I got caught him in January at the same time as I found out that I entered into perimenopause. Yesterday I saw this woman he had the emotional affair for the first time as we were driving to get a new plant for our yard. She was not an attractive woman, however that didnt really matter since it was an EMOTIONAL affair. I handled it very bad and yelled at him, this is what you did this to me for? Her? That? Of course I have been on an emotional roller coaster along with vertigo and fatigue for several months now. Mine came on very quickly. FSH levels showed that in January my levels were so normal they said I was not even near menopuase and when I missed my period this month they again checked my levels and found my FSH went to 30.5 from 3.9. So now my husband has asked us to share the home but live seperate lives. Oh I see this working. He says he doesnt want this but when I brought up that I am in perimenopause, he kind of just said yeah, yeah I know you keep telling me. I am angry at him. I am hurt by him. And now when I need his support the most, I don’t feel I have it. Today I woke up very dizzy and very sad and angry. Two days ago I was in good spirits. My doc wants to start me on Prempro but I am afraid of the side effects. Any help, support or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you
Cheryl

Magnolia April 25, 2010 at 7:51 pm

Hello Cheryl,

Welcome to my blog and I’m so sorry that you are having such a tough time right now. Perimenopause seems to make everything seem so much worse. I wish I had a good suggestion for you with your husband, but alas, I do not. Sometimes I think some men really do want to help but they are completely befuddled.

Then there are others who can’t stop taking everything personally long enough to help you. (enter my husband). Then there are men who just do not care. I do not know where your own husband falls in the continuum, but if you do not feel you have his support, I suppose it really doesn’t matter. It sounds like you guys were having a tough time before the perimenopause began? If that is the case, then it doesn’t surprise me that you asked him to leave.

I had a reader share with me once that what happens in perimenopause is that unresolved issues seem to find their way to the top and unfortunately, marital issues seem to become the number one issue.

Is it possible to live with the arrangement he suggested without too much strife? It might not be a bad idea right now. :)

As far as what to take. I would highly recommend bio-identical hormones. You can find some wonderful information in a few of the books I have here at my blog or you can check these two sites:

http://www.drhotze.com or http://www.drerika.com

Both of these physicians are experts in bio-identical hormones and can help you ALOT with your symptoms. Have you read any of Dr. Lee’s books? I believe I have one or two in my sidebar.

Are there any physicians in your area that prescribed bio-identicals? You can check http://www.bodylogic.com to find physicians in your area that do. I have their website in my blogroll as well.

I hope some of this helps. Please feel free to ask more questions if you need to.

Magnolia

Cheryl G April 26, 2010 at 5:05 pm

Hi Magnolia,
Thank you for responding. I too have heard many wonderful testimonials about bio-identicals hormones and today I found out that there arent any doctors in my area :( I found one in Pennsylvania but they want over $400 for blood tests another $300 and something for my first visit and then another $200 and something for some other test. It was a lot of money. I just need help. I am staring at the prempro and I just dont want to take it. I dont feel good about taking it. I am trying to do this without taking it but my stress level is very high, I cry without notice, and I am dizzy. UGH!! But I still am trying to see a light at the end. Please tell me there is one?
Thank you again for writing!
Cheryl

Mike May 1, 2010 at 11:29 pm

Hi Magnolia,

First, thanks for help me see the sanity in what seems to be an insane situation.

I really want to be the supporting husband. At this point, that seems to mean that I stay out of her way. She’ll include when she wants to and makes it clear when I’m “not invited”.

Honestly, I wish I could just find a way to have her come to the realization that perimenopause is likely a huge factor in the marital stress we’ve experienced the last three year. She’ll be 44 this month. We have 2 children – 4 & 11. We lost one in between to SIDS, so we’ve survived just about the worst thing that could happen to a couple…

The rest of this just describes what I’ve seen and advice to other husbands — especially what NOT to do….

I’ll admit there is definitely some damage we’ve both levied during this time. But, no scars that can’t eventually be ignored.

When I saw “changes” and suggested this a few years back, her OB-GYN provided the “hormone levels are normal” story. After that, I spent the next several months attempting to redo the dynamics of our relationship. Knowing what I know now, that was a really BAD IDEA!!! Last thing she needed was me trying to be demanding & controlling for about 6 months. I even snooped her email and accused her of having an affair.

Hiding this was also a minor closed head injury in late 2006. Likely “anger management” issues as well (our marriage counselor identified this in a 1 on 1 with me).

I’ve resolved that I’m not going anywhere. She moved to the spare room over a year ago. Lately she mentions getting an apartment.

After giving her (and retracting) a deadline to LEAVE a year ago, I have simply just rolled with the punches….

There have been a handful of incedences with the good “hormone fairy” visits. It was the surprise “I love you” in one of them that has me still here. These “visits” bring a 1-2 day sexual interest that’s almost worth waiting for. Too bad these are starting to show up with 3-4 months in between….

I stumbled onto your blog several months ago. I’m inclined to agree with your view that perimenopause is likely a MAJOR cause of divorce in this age group. Most articles / blogs focus on divorce as a stressor that only makes perimenopause mentally worse.

I’ve found a few other guys going through similar issues as me. It’s amazing how similar our stories are. WE LOVE THESE WOMEN, but it’s like they’re really trying to drive us away. They actually get upset when we go out of our way to do nice things. And, we don’t ask for anything in return.

I could type all night!!! I already realize I’m rambling.

If my wife would just look at me and say “I’m not myself. It’s likely perimenopause, it will end in at least another 2-5 years. If you can hang on, I might realize I really can love you.”

Otherwise, I’ve wrapped the end of the rope around my wrist, that way I can’t let go. Just worried that someone else is trying to cut it.

Will be checking in…. Appreciate your candor….. It provides HOPE.

Mike

Magnolia May 2, 2010 at 8:51 pm

Okay, Mike, I’ve made it back. Sorry it’s taken me so long but it’s been a rather busy day and I knew that when I sat down to write this it would take a while, so I’ve not been in too much of a hurry to get back.

I’ve read through your comment again to refresh my memory and a couple of things stood out to me that if you don’t mind, I would like to point out…….you said that both of you have levied some damage at the relationship. I believe you. It definitely takes two and even though we are in perimenopause, it doesn’t render us irresponsible for our actions. However, you *did* say that there weren’t scars “that couldn’t be ignored”

Since I’m not your wife and you have nothing invested here except words on a blog, perhaps I can suggest this to you and you may be able to hear it as it is intended. When it comes to conflict, women process pain and hurt decidedly different than our male counterparts. Men are definitely of the “forget about it and let’s move on” persuasion. Up to a point, depending on what it is you’re asking us to forget about, this is okay and probably wise advice. HOWEVER………if the offenses, wounds, scars, what have you, have run deep and there hasn’t been sufficient “tending to the wound”, women cannot just move on and forget.

I do not know what it is about our emotional make-up that will not allow us to do this, but I’m telling you as straight forward as I know how……..do not use that attitude across the board. If a woman has been hurt deeply and is wounded, for you to dismiss her or want to “just forget it” is really asking for SERIOUS resentments that if left to fester for years could very well lead to divorce. Just sayin’ dude. okay? Hear me on that one.

Next, you sound to me like you realize what you should and shouldn’t have done in the marriage and that is a good thing. I just need to ask though………are ya’ll fighting over anything? Are there issues that keep coming up over and over and over again? Because if there are? They ain’t going anywhere, Mike. See the paragraph above and figure out what you need to do to get to the bottom of those.

I had a woman leave a comment here recently who said that menopause is a time that women start to rehash old hurts, old pains and unresolved issues. I find that dynamic absolutely fascinating. I’ve seen it in my life. I believe firmly that if there have been issues in the marriage that have lingered for years, unresolved? They are about to rise to the top.

Here’s the conclusion I’ve come to with perimenopause……….it is like a flood light comes on and that every stinkin’ thing that has ever been an issue now becomes major fodder for divorce attorneys. If you guys have issues, that could very well be what’s happening.

How long has it been since your child died? Did she fully grieve and come through that? Are there still lingering pockets of pain and despair? Guilt? Shame? I’m not suggesting any of this is true, I’m just asking.

Are ya’ll seeing a marriage counselor now? If not, maybe it would be a good idea? Again, just asking.

If you want some straight forward, how do I handle a perimenopausal woman, then here’s my best advice:

1. Don’t blame her – she’s not doing it on purpose. her mood swings are not a choice she makes when she gets up one day…….you know…..”hmmm, I think I’ll fall into the depths of despair today and sob uncontrollably for three days. Then, I think I’ll rage and scream at everyone I love at the top of my lungs. Maybe I’ll even throw something at my husband. Yeah. That’s what I’ll do today”

Sounds absurd doesn’t it? And it IS absurd to think that women are deliberately doing it. We’re not.

2. Don’t try to fix her – It’s almost become cliche’……..just listen. Don’t try to fix anything or give advice about what she should or shouldn’t do. Look, even in non-perimenopause times, women hate that. :)

3. Don’t tell her she’s crazy – that cuts like a knife in case you’re wondering. Women already feel very tenuous when they’re emotions are going all over the place. If you tell her she’s nuts or ask her…”What’s WRONG with you???” You’re just setting her up to feel even worse and the symptoms can get compounded.

4. Don’t leave her alone to cry it out – I realize you said she tells you to get lost or she lets you know if you can come around. So, maybe you can ask….”hey, honey, i want to do the right thing here. What do you need? To be left alone? To talk? To be held? You tell me…….” Then be willing to actually do it, Mike.

5. If she wants to talk, please look her in the eyes. Stop what you’re doing and really pay attention. If you can perfect the art of empathetic listening and offer the occasional….”Wow, honey, that must be really hard for you…..I’m really sorry you’re suffering so much” That kind of tender caring and listening helps women feel loved and cared for. Sappy for you guys? yeah, probably. But, it’s her you’re trying to take care of right?

6. Don’t expect her to be rational and to problem solve with her hormones like you would problem solve – you said if she would just look at you and say I’m in perimenopause, you would feel better about it. But that’s the thing…….sometimes we can, sometimes we can’t. I cannot tell you why we can’t see the forest through the trees with this stuff. We just can’t.

Look, when our spouse or someone we love is going through a tough time it can be hard on the other. A friend of mine shared with me what her husband has been going through with Crohn’s Disease. he’s had surgery after surgery and he’s just not well. He is depressed and stressed and he takes it ALL OUT ON HER. It’s brutal she said. But, if you take a step back…..who is REALLY suffering? Her husband. She doesn’t have Crohn’s Disease. She’s not the one getting cut open and have pieces of her intestines removed and still not getting better. He is.

I think that our husbands have a tendency to take our perimenopause personal. But, it’s really not about you. It’s about what our body is doing and the absolute lack of control that we have over it. Yeah, it’s bad when you get screamed at or shut out or as in my case, cussed out (yeah, I’ve done that to my husband) and I know that is hard. But, if you can disconnect your ego from the situation and realize that SHE is the one who is REALLY suffering.

Would you feel the way you feel right now if she had terminal cancer? you would not. You be buck up and you would ride it out because you would know it was the cancer that was eating her life away from her. Okay, so perimenopause is not cancer, but it’s as much out of her control as cancer would be. it really is.

Finally…….has she said that she thinks it perimenopause? has she been to this blog? maybe you can send her this way. it would be enlightening?

There are some great books on my site that I highly recommend to understand perimenopause.

And one more thing, Mike…..we are not trying to drive you away. We’re really not. We’re going through hell. If you continue to make *yourself* the victim here you will continue to be victimized in your perceptions by her actions.

Look, talk about rambling. I don’t know if I hit on anything that is useful or helpful. So, please feel free to ask more questions or contact me again. I’m glad to listen and offer whatever kind of insight I can.

Magnolia

Magnolia May 2, 2010 at 9:07 pm

Hello Cheryl,

I’m so sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you with this answer. I know bio-identical hormones and the tests you need to take can be so expensive. It has kept me from doing it a lot of times too. There are some good books out there on perimenopause that can guide you through some things you can do. Have you tried that? You can always get some progesterone creme and follow the instructions on how to use it. Have you read Dr. Lee’s book on “What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause?” It is a great resource and one I would highly recommend.

Dr. Erika Schwartz has a good book called 30-Day Hormone Challenge. she incorporates diet changes and exercise along with natural progesterone creme and a couple of other “over the counter” supplements you can try.

You don’t need to suffer and Yes, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I’m SO MUCH BETTER than I was 5 years ago. It does get better. It really does. If you need anything else or have any specific questions, please let me know. I’ll be glad to help you out the best that I can.

Magnolia

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